Filed under: hobbyist, local events, modeling, networking, photography, upcoming shoots | Tags: dilemma, modeling, networking, photo shoot, photographer, photography, photoshoot, pros and cons
I have a dilemma, and frankly, it’s easier for me to hash it out here in my blog than in my head. Perhaps readers can offer me insight, or maybe just seeing it all down “on paper” will help me make a decision. So… here goes.
I am supposed to attend an event soon. It’s a group shoot type event which I’ve attended a few times before. It is definitely a chance to work with some folks I wouldn’t normally get a chance to work with, and the paste events have definitely been a lot of fun. Both rather positive things, though many of the folks are repeat attendees… though in some cases that’s ok, as many of them aren’t nearby enough for me to work with regularly.
In theory, it’s also a good networking opportunity, and a good way to build one’s portfolio. I say “in theory” because for one, I’ve yet to get a paying job, or even a repeat TF* request, from any of the photographers at the past events I’ve attended. I don’t really count “pleasure working with you, hope to do it again sometime” as a request–to me it’s a polite statement, much like, “nice to meet you, hope to see you soon” which you’d say in parting to someone you just met, but know you likely won’t get together with on your own anytime soon. Additionally, it’s becoming increasingly difficult for me to build my portfolio from group events. Now, sure, with the new look I do need some updated images, but for the specific kinds of images I’m looking for, going to a group shoot likely isn’t the best place for me to get them. There’s another issue relating to that that I’ll get to in a minute.
For this particular event, it seems that most of the models will be doing nudes/bodypainting, and most of the photographers are interested in that kind of work or highly conceptualized stuff that I don’t need in my portfolio. And I totally understand not wanting to work with the “boring, not-even-willing-to-do-topless-implied, model who wants to stay clothed and get commercial or commercial-fashion style images that are minimally edited and retouched cleanly”… especially when there’s 10 other models there prancing around in various stages of nakedness, covered in paint and/or fake blood, willing to be tied up and whatnot. In my experience, a model’s experience is often overshadowed by another model’s willingness to show her tits. :shrug: Nothing I can do about that really, except deal with it.
Now, factor in the fact that I’ve only received usable stuff from a couple photographers who were at the last event, and things aren’t looking hot. To top it off, I can’t really even use the stuff I got because my look changed pretty dramatically. I’m still waiting for stuff from a few photographers, but with the change in my look, don’t really care if I get it at this point… again, it won’t really be usable to me at this point unless it’s [i]exceptional[/i] stuff, but you’d think exceptional stuff would have been sent out already and not just sitting on someone’s hard drive a month and a half later.
I’ve also found that while I might get great web-ready stuff from events like this, getting un-watermarked, print size files doesn’t typically happen. And with my working on building a print book, that’s something I absolutely need. Should the shots be print-worthy, of course.
Which brings me to me next point of concern. It seems that, of the attending parties, the only photographers that could give me the type work I am looking for might not be able to deliver the quality that I need–that is, work that is equal or better to what I already have in my portfolio. That’s a problem. I’m a firm believer in the concept of “trading up”, and I know that I’ve got some high-quality work in my portfolio. Sure, there are a couple folks who are attending that can get me some great stuff, but I’d almost rather work with them outside of the group atmosphere so we can really knock out some top-notch stuff, instead of hurrying along at a group event so everyone can have their turn.
Let’s factor in the fact that I’ve had one person contact me to let me know they want to work with me, and it happens to be another model, and I’m sensing there just aren’t many people interested in working with me there. Now, I’m all for working with other models, but all of the other issues above factor into it.
Now, sure, I could just show up with my big ugly orange suitcase packed full of outfits I want to shoot in, my ideas in hand, and shoot with whoever’s willing to shoot–after all, that’s what I did the past couple times and it worked out ok. But I’m not big on just shooting my outfits and ideas, and I don’t want people to shoot with me because they feel obliged to. And, of course, there’s the quality thing again…
Bottom line is, I’m having trouble justifying spending the time and money on an event where it’s pretty clear I’ll either not work with many photographers, or I’ll get back shots that I can’t use for one reason or another. But at the same time, I’ve already made a commitment to be there.
No idea, still, what I want to do here. Perhaps I still need to mull it over. Any thoughts?
Filed under: local events, modeling, networking | Tags: halloween, meet and greet, modeling, networking, photographer
Wishing everyone a safe, happy Halloween!
Hope to see you Chicagoans at the VIP Halloween Party from 7-9P at Heat in Schaumburg
Filed under: Va Va Vroom, hobbyist, local events, model for, modeling, networking, new models, photography, shoot results, upcoming shoots | Tags: boudoir, fashion, hair cut, halloween, M&G, meet and greet, modeling, networking, photographer, photography, shoot results, vavavroom clothing
First, I’m finally on FaceBook! If you’re a reader, I’d love for you to send me a friend request there! I’m Rachel Jay there
Second, I’d like to give a shout out to VaVaVroom Clothing, who’s got yours truly featured twice on their home page, plus in the video that’s linked there right now! Here’s a screenshot (I snagged it where they show me in the video too haha!):
You can also check the site out yourself at www.vavavroomonline.com! They have such cute stuff!
Third, I’m getting a haircut this weekend! I’m still going to be working on growing the mop out, but I want something a little more tailored and fun (less mop, haha). It’s going to be way cute. I’ll post pics, likely Sat evening, so don’t worry.
The modeling workshop last weekend was a success! I’ll likely be putting on a few more, so keep an eye out!
I’m modeling for a boudoir workshop Sunday. That’s going to be a ton of fun! The photographer who’s hosting is a ton of fun, it’s at a private residence, and there are going to be some great photographers there. I’m looking forward to it.
And last but not least, if you’re in Chicago for Halloween, you should come to Heat Nightclub from 7-9P! It’s the montly M&G with a twist! Heat has given us the entire club from 7-9P, so it’ll be an awesome VIP bash! We’re going to have food and drinks available, a raffle, a costume contest, and more! RSVP here!
Filed under: local events, modeling, networking, new models, photography, upcoming shoots | Tags: modeling, networking, new model, new models, photo shoot, photography, photoshoot, workshop
Modeling Workshop – For Models ONLY!
Come join experienced hobbyist model Rachel Jay as she walks you through modeling and shares some important information, tips, and tricks she’s learned over the years. Learn what some of the common modeling genres are, how to build a good reputation for yourself as a model, and about shoot safety. Rachel will share some of her shoot and posing tips, as well as work with you one-on-one to help improve your posing! This is a great opportunity for new models to learn from an experienced model. Book now to reserve your spot!
Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009
Time: 10:00A to 1:00P (Please arrive by 9:45A, as we will begin at 10A sharp!)
Location: The Downtown Pro Studio, 150 Virginia Road, Crystal Lake IL 60014
Studio Phone: 1.815.788.9100
Cost:
If you sign up by 5P on October 9, the cost is only $15 to attend. This covers snacks, your CD, and studio time, and also ensures you have a spot during the workshop. If you show up October 10 without registering the cost with be $25, cash only. If you cannot pay before the workshop, you will not be able to stay, so please come prepared. There will be no refunds if you do not show up.
To RSVP and pay, please go to the MeetUp group: http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoBurbsMayhe … /11407705/
Schedule
10A: Welcome Shoot
Start the day off with a brief shoot. Show off your best poses and while the first session of the day goes on our team will choose your best shot, which you’ll get to compare with a shot taken later on in the session.
10:30A-11:15A: Getting Started
Learn about some of the common modeling genres, how to be realistic about modeling, how to build yourself a reputation as a professional and accountable model, shoot safety, and more.
11:15A-11:30A: Break
11:30A-12:30P: Modeling 101
During this part of the day you’ll learn what your job as a model is, what it means to prepare for a shoot, how to begin mastering your poses and expressions, and more.
12:30P-1P: Second Shoot & One-On-One Q&A
We’ll end the day with brief one-on-one sessions with Rachel Jay and a quick photoshoot, where you can apply what you’ve learned in the workshop. Your best shot will be chosen by our team and you can compare it to your first shot of the day to see the improvement!
What Models Get:
Models who participate in this workshop will get a disc of images chosen by the photographers at the workshop and edited as they desire. Snacks and refreshments will be provided.
Bring:
Show up wearing simple clothing that is easy to move in but form-fitting. We suggest a good fitting pair of jeans, high heels and a tank top. Avoid loud colors and busy patterns. Please keep accessories to a minimum. It might also help to bring a notepad and pen to take notes. You will be receiving some printed materials as well.
Filed under: hobbyist, modeling, networking, new models, photography | Tags: gwc, hobby, modeling, networking, new model, new models, photo shoot, photographer, photography, photoshoot
The question was raised in the forums as to whether-or-not folks you owe anything to the folks you worked with when you started modeling. It was phrased in a way that suggested that since these people may have taken a chance on me, I should return the favor down the road and “pay it back” by working with them again, even if it might be a step backwards. Here are my thoughts on the subject:
A few of the photographers I worked with early on I still work with. We often have a standing trade agreement, but also recommend each other for paying jobs, go to each other with paid assignments/ideas first, or recommend each other to others. It works out well between these individuals and I, and we often really challenge ourselves creatively and have a great time shooting. Some of them I’ve even become really good friends with 
I worked a lot with newer photographers when I started modeling. Some of them have grown in leaps and bounds, and have even outgrown working with me at this point. I’m excited for them and often keep an eye on their work, and congratulate them on milestones. While I’d jump at the chance to work with them again, I’d likely have to pay them (which I have no problems with) instead of working trade.
Some of the other new photographers I worked with early on haven’t grown, and are still shooting the same type of stuff. Working with these kinds of folks would likely be a huge step down for me. I don’t feel I owe them anything, and don’t feel it would make sense to work trade with them if I wasn’t going to get anything out of it. I might offer a discounted rate, but I’d send rates regardless.
Filed under: hobbyist, local events, modeling, networking, new models, photography | Tags: hobby, meet and greet, meet up, meetup.com, modeling, networking, new model, new models, photo shoot, photographer, photography, photoshoot
I’ve started a new group on www.meetup.com for the monthly M&G events I host
www.meetup.com/ChicagoBurbsMayhem
Join up! Come play with us!
Filed under: hobbyist, local events, modeling, networking, photography, shoot results | Tags: creativity, hobby, modeling, networking, photo shoot, photographer, photography, photoshoot, shoot results
This past Sunday was the Anything Goes 2 event up in Racine, WI. It was hosted by Frank of 11 11 Visions, a partner in the Studio MLP group out there in Wisconsin. It was, in a word… well, I can’t just find one word. It was a ton of fun, a great networking opportunity, a wonderful chance for me to work with some folks I may never have worked with, and I got to spend some time chatting with the awesome Roger Talley
I also got some great stuff out of it… and I’ve only seen very few shots already!
Let me elaborate on all of that, starting with the fun part
As always the WI crowd delivered. They’re always a warm, welcoming crowd who loves to have a good time. There was much laughter, great food, and an all-around relaxed, wonderful atmosphere. Add in a great indoor shooting area that’s set up to easily accommodate 4 photographers’ lighting setups, and a plethora of killer locations outdoors, and the whole thing was just stellar! There wasn’t any inter-model drama (though on model did have a P&S camera go missing, unfortunately), there weren’t photographers arguing over models or refusing to share shooting locations, models, etc., and there was plenty of patience, helping out (both between photographers and photographers, and models and models), discussing industry-related things, and just overall good times.
Networking galore happened there! This kind of also touches on my working with folks I wouldn’t have worked with before, but I got a chance to meet some new faces, touch base with some familiar ones, and overall get my name, face, and modeling skills out there for a few more folks to see. Always a good thing!!
Working with new folks is always a good time. There were a bunch of folks from a bit out of my typical travel range, and it was wonderful to work with them. Lovely to get some different styles, new ideas, and I’m anticipating some great stuff, and perhaps some future collaborations as well!
And Roger… Roger is awesome! Roger flew out from Vegas to Racine specifically to meet me. We shot together as well
But let’s start with the fact that I’m still insanely flattered that Roger flew out just to meet me! It’s indescribable how great that makes me feel, really!! I’m still totally on cloud 9 because of it :blushes: Now, we also shot, and that was great (though things didn’t go quite as planned, we did get some great stuff).
But the best part about meeting Roger was two-fold. One, I got to talk to him about stuff–we sort of picked each others’ brains about a few things. It was nice
But I also got to listen to Roger talk to others. And it was great! I won’t go into too much detail, but it’s wonderful listening to someone who really know what they’re talking about share their knowledge and opinions, and Roger does it in such a way that it’s both honest and entertaining. Yay!
Roger also laughed at me. A few times, actually. I’ll take that to be a good thing
LOL!
I’ll post some shots when I get more
Right now I’ve only got a few… and I don’t want to post those few only to get more awesome stuff. Let’s just say I’m very pleased by what I’ve seen so far!
Big thanks to all who participated in the Anything Goes 2 event, as well as Frank, who coordinated it! I hope to be at the next one :hinthint:
Filed under: modeling, networking, new models, photography, upcoming shoots | Tags: event, meet and greet, modeling, networking, photography
So the Chicago ‘Burbs Meet & Shoot I is coming up in a little over a week! I’m working on making this event different than past events I’ve done, and have thrown in some incentives for models who come out.
Each model will get a goody bag full of fun stuff
I’ve also managed to score some stuff to auction off! Awesome!!
Keep any eye out for more info here!
Filed under: modeling, networking, new models | Tags: joining new sites, networking, new models, new photographer, patience, starting out
Having been modeling now for almost 3 years, I see a lot of new photographers, models and MUAs join a site like MM and get discouraged right away. Some of them even want to leave after a few days, not even giving it a week.
Now, sure, it’s pretty easy to get discouraged. Joining a site like MM, OMP, or any of the various other modeling comunities online doesn’t mean the work will suddenly start rolling in. And if it does, it likely won’t be paid work.
The work won’t just start rolling in, because networking sites require a lot of work. I’m on 4 or 5 modeling sites, and the ones I get work from? The ones I spend more time on.
You have to get your name out there, and show people that you exist.
But how do you do it? Well, it’s different for every site. But mostly, you want to interact with others as much as possible. If you can send friend requests, comment photos, add images to lists, tag profiles, list people as “want to work with”, mingle in the forums/chat boxes, post casting calls… DO IT! Use the networking site to it’s full capacity! The more you get your name out there, the higher the chances of someone seeing you, the higher the chances of someone liking your look/work and wanting to work with you.
So, while it might seem discouraging that no one’s contacting you in the first few days of you joining a modeling site… don’t let it be!
Just make sure you’re doing your part to get people to see you, and that you have patience!
On another related note, a lot of times new models and photographers have trouble finding people to work with. Especially on a trade basis. It all boils down to the fact that you’ve got to offer something worthwhile when it comes to exchanging services. If you can offer usable images, more power to you. If not, figure something else out. Great concepts often go far, as does food, wardrobe pieces (such as shoes), business card or website design, and a whole variety of other things. There are a lot of models who barter more than just shots when working trade. I certainly have!
You just have to be willing to ask, and make sure you deliver your end of the deal!
